Thursday, May 6, 2021

B. H. Carroll on Repentance

 
THE NATURE, NECESSITY, IMPORTANCE, AND DEFINITION OF REPENTANCE

by

B. H. Carroll

(1843-1914) 


In the preaching of John the Baptist we come to the words "repent" and "repentance," and here, as well as elsewhere, we may at length consider the whole Bible doctrine of repentance. We will find that great prominence is given in the Bible to the duty of repentance. It is a staple of preaching and teaching in both Testaments. Among the noted Old Testament preachers of repentance may be named Enoch, Noah, Moses, Samuel, Elijah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Hosea, Jonah, and Malachi. The more noted of the New Testament preachers of this doctrine are John the Baptist, our Lord himself, Peter, Paul, and John, the apostle. The universality of the obligation to repent was announced by Paul at Athens in these words: "God now commandeth all men everywhere to repent" (Acts 17:30). Of the necessity of repentance, our Lord himself declares, "Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish" (Luke 13:3).

It may be observed that all of God's commandments are not of equal importance. Our Lord himself mentions one as the "first great commandment." A mistake in obedience to some of these commandments is not necessarily fatal. For example, a penitent believer may make a mistake about baptism. He may honestly intend to be baptized, and yet, through a false education, he may not have obeyed the commandment of God as to the act and design and administrator of this ordinance. This mistake is not fatal, because God has not made baptism essential to salvation, but salvation essential to baptism. But we cannot make a mistake as to repentance with like impunity.

No matter how much one may desire to repent, nor how often he may resolve to repent, unless he actually repents he is lost, because God has made repentance a prerequisite to eternal life.

Another fact suggests its great importance. Paul declares it to be one of the first principles of the oracles of God (Heb. 5:12; 6:1). The first principles in any science are valuable because they are fundamental, that is, knowledge of them is essential to further progress in that science. So Paul argues in the scriptures cited. He complains that he must go back and teach them again the first principles before they are ready to go on unto perfection. Fundamental means "pertaining to a foundation," and in one of the scriptures cited Paul says, "Not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works." This not only implies the fundamental character of repentance, but its permanence. Indeed, this foundation can never be laid but once. Following his hypothetical argument the apostle shows that if a regenerated man should fall away it would be impossible to renew him again to repentance, so that this work once done is done once for all. The reader will understand me in this to refer to that primary repentance which precedes and induces the faith which saves the soul. A Christian may often repent.

One cannot build a big house on a little foundation. The relation of a foundation, therefore, to its superstructure is quite important. The size, weight, and durability of the latter depend on the depth, breadth, and solidity of the former. Hence it is never wise to economize in foundations. Our Lord illustrates the value of the foundation at the close of his Sermon on the Mount, both positively and negatively, in the following language; "Therefore, whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock; and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not, for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these saying of mine and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand; and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell, and great was the fall of it" (Matt. 7:24-27). The same value appears in David's inquiry: "If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?" (Psalm 11:3). Those vain imaginations which have no foundation in fact are called air castles. From their insubstantial nature may be inferred the little value of a profession of personal religion not bottomed on repentance.

Repentance appears further as a first principle in that it is the required preparation for the reception of Christ. The work of John the Baptist is the most illustrious example of repentance as a preparatory work. John is called the harbinger, or forerunner, of our Lord, and was commissioned to "prepare the way before him and make ready a people prepared for him" (Matt. 3:3). This he did by "preaching repentance" (Matt. 3:2). The nature of his work as a preparation was foretold by both Isaiah (40:3-8) and Malachi (3:1). The following words of Isaiah in a striking figure foreshow a part of the characteristics of repentance: "Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low; and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain" (Isa. 40:4). Elsewhere he uses the following words: "Cast ye up, cast ye up, prepare the way, take up the stumbling block out of the way of my people" (Isa. 57:14); "Go through, go through the gates; prepare ye the way of the people; cast up, cast up the highway; gather out the stones; lift up a standard for the people" (Isa. 62:10). All the import of these figures can be expressed in the one word "grading," so that the work of John the Baptist was compared to the grading of a highway over which Christ was to come to his people. The value of such work in the material things indicated by the figure is sufficiently attested by those movements of ancient skills, the Roman and Peruvian roads, and the modern railroads. Jeremiah presents the same thought negatively by combating the evil results of impenitence to walking in a way not "cast up" (Jer. 18:15). We may describe, therefore, the folly of trying to be a Christian without repentance, by this similitude: An engineer trying to run a train of cars through the woods, over the mountains, across rivers and ravines, where there are no prepared tracks. But the richness of prophetic description was not limited to one figure. We find Isaiah turning in the same connection from the figure of grading to one of agriculture, expressing thereby the same preparatory nature of John's work. The image employed is that of burning the grass off a field (Isa. 40:6-8). John's preaching subsequently fulfilled this figure, of withering the grass of the flesh, in the most striking manner, by destroying all hope of fitness for the kingdom of God based on fleshly descent from Abraham (Matt. 3:9). Both Hosea and Jeremiah employ the agricultural figure, showing the preparatory nature of repentance. The words of Jeremiah are: "For thus saith the Lord to the men of Judah and Jerusalem: Break up your fallow ground and sow not among thorns." According to this figure we may express the folly of trying to be a Christian without repentance, under the similitude of a farmer expecting to reap a harvest from seed sown in a field whose stubble and thorns had not first been burned off and whose sod had not been broken. Our Saviour aptly describes the outcome of the folly of omitting this preparatory work in the parable of the sower, where he compares such people to stony, thorn-poisoned, pathtrodden ground which brought forth no fruit.

Mark emphasizes the preparatory work of repentance by calling John's preaching of it "The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God" (Mark 1:1), and Luke by the declaration, "The law and the prophets were until John; since that time the kingdom of God is preached and every man presseth into it" (Luke 16:16). This is varied somewhat in Matthew's statement: "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force" (Matt. 11:12).

The foregoing figures and images touching the nature of repentance enable us to express its relation to eternal life in the statement that it is an essential prerequisite to salvation to all subjects of gospel address.

Philosophically considered, repentance must precede faith. As a sick man must be convinced that he is sick before he will turn to a physician, or take his medicine, so the carnal mind must be withered before the renewed mind can be superinduced. This precedence is proved also from the Scriptures. John the Baptist put repentance before faith (Acts 19:4) ; so did our Lord (Mark 1:15); and Peter (Acts 2:38-41); and Paul (Acts 20:21; Heb. 6:1, 2; 2 Tim. 2:25). Indeed, there is no passage in the New Testament, naming both faith and repentance, in which faith comes first.

From the discussion so far we may sum up the nature, necessity and importance of repentance in the following brief statement: It is a staple of preaching in both Testaments. It is of universal obligation. It is a first principle of the gospel. It is fundamental and vital, being prerequisite to salvation. It is to personal religion what the clearing and breaking up of new ground is to a harvest, what the foundation is to a house, what the grading is to a highway, what the initial point is to a survey. It is the boundary between the covenants. It is the killing which precedes the making alive. It is that conviction of sickness which turns the sick man to the physician.

We may then say of the preacher who dares to leave out repentance in his preaching, that he leaves out one-half the terms of salvation and vitiates the other half; that he builds only air castles; that he vainly attempts to run the gospel relief train where there is no prepared track; that he commends the doctor to well people; that he baptizes raw sinners and whitewashes the carnal nature; that he sows among thorns and in stubble land, in stony ground and on underlying rocks. We may also say of the preacher who minifies this doctrine that he thereby minifies the necessity for Christ; hence dwarfs the Redeemer himself. It is little sick – little physician; little sinner – little Saviour. It must be evident, therefore, that it is the duty of every preacher of the gospel to preach repentance just as often, and with as much emphasis, and to as many people, as he preaches faith. As illustrative of the value of such preaching it may be justly said of all the great preachers, like Spurgeon, Bunyan, Whitefield, Moody, Jonathan Edwards, and, indeed, all who have been successful in winning souls to Christ, that they all laid great and frequent stress on the duty of repentance. From all these things it certainly ought to follow that preachers at least should have clear conceptions of the meaning, place and relations of repentance. Usually, however, they have not these clear conceptions. Many cannot define the term. If a thousand were asked to write out in succession a definition in the fewest possible words, but few of them would give the right definition, and there would be great vagueness, variety and contradiction in the others. It is proper to state a few examples of variant definitions given by prominent people:

Sam Jones: "Quit your meanness."

D. L. Moody: "Right about face."

Alexander Campbell: "Reformation."

The Romanist Bible (rendering Matt. 3:2) : "Do penance."

A. W. Chambliss: "Godly sorrow for sin."

Our common version, in Matthew 27:3, makes it equivalent to "Remorse of conscience."

Many speakers and writers: "Restitution."

M. T. Martin: "Knowing God and turning from dead works."

Such variations in definitions (and many others might be added) sufficiently indicate the necessity of a closer study of this doctrine in the New Testament than is ordinarily given to it. Here it is important to observe that the New Testament was written in Greek. Happily for us, we find in one brief paragraph in 2 Corinthians 7 a number of terms covering the whole ground.

The verb, lupeo, to grieve, to make sorry.

The noun, lupe, grief, sorrow.

Lupe tou kosmou, a phrase signifying "worldly sorrow."

Lupe kata theon, another phrase meaning "godly sorrow."

The verb, metamelomai, to regret.

The noun, metanoia, repentance.

The adjective, ametameletos, not regrettable.

In this context, and elsewhere, our common version [the KJV] renders metamelomai, "repent." As the instances of its use in the New Testament are few, I now cite every one:

Matthew 21:29: "Afterward he repented and went."

Matthew 21:32: "Ye repented not afterward, that ye might believe him."

Matthew 27:3-5: "Judas repented himself . . . and went and hanged himself."

2 Corinthians 2:8: "I do not repent, though I did repent."

Hebrews 7:21: "The Lord swear and will not repent."

A better rendering, perhaps, in every case of this usage would be obtained by substituting the word "regret." "Repent" is an inappropriate rendering for this verb, because, first, metamelomai does not express the full idea of New Testament repentance. For example, Judas repented and went and hanged himself, but "repentance is unto life," and it is worldly sorrow that worketh death. Second, because there is another term always employed in expressing New Testament repentance. That other term is the noun, metanoia, from the verb, metanoeo. I cite for the benefit of the reader every New Testament use of the verb, and ask him to look at each reference and note its application to our doctrine. Matthew uses the term five times, as follows: 3:2; 4:17; 11:20-21; 12:41. Mark twice: 1:15; 6:12. Luke ten times in his Gospel: 10:13; 11:32; 13:3, 5; 15:7, 10; 16:30; 17:3-4, 30. In Acts five times more: 2:38; 3:19; 8:22; 17:30; 26:20. Paul once: 2 Corinthians 12:21. John eleven times: Revelation 2:5, 16, 21-22; 3:3, 19; 9: 20-21; 16:9, 11. Thirty-four times in all. Matthew uses the noun three times: 3:8, 11; 9:13. Mark twice: 1:14; 2:17. Luke five times in his Gospel: 3:3, 8; 5:32; 15:7; 24:47. Six times in Acts: 5:31; 11:18; 13:24; 19:4; 20:21; 26:20. Paul seven times: Romans 11:4; 2 Corinthians 7:9-10; 2 Timothy 2:25; Hebrews 6:1, 6; 12:17. Peter once: 2 Peter 3:9. In all, twenty-four. We thus observe that this term, as a noun or verb, is employed fifty-eight times in the New Testament, occurring in books by Matthew eight times; Mark four times; Luke twenty-six times; John eleven times; Peter one time; Paul eight times; and in every instance refers unmistakably to the New Testament doctrine of repentance, and to nothing else.

It should be noted also carefully that repentance is declared to be the product of godly sorrow, lupe kata theon; and that it always ends in salvation, eternal life (Acts 11:18; 2 Cor. 7: 7-10). Hence it follows that repentance is always ametameletos, "not regrettable." This adjective is compounded from the verb melein and the preposition, meta, and the primative particle a.

We advance in our knowledge of metanoeo, to repent, and metanoia, repentance, by considering that there is a Greek noun, nous, the mind. There is also a Greek verb which tells what the mind does – noeo, to think, perceive, understand. Then there is the preposition, meta, which, in composition with noeo, expresses the idea of change, transition, sequence. Therefore, we may say that metanoeo always means "to think back, to change the mind," while the noun, metanoia, always means afterthought, as opposed to forethought, change of mind. We may, therefore, give as the one invariable definition of New Testament repentance that it is a change of mind, from which it is evident that its domain is limited. It is necessarily internal, not external.

The necessity for its universal application as a prerequisite to Christian character and life lies in the fact that the carnal mind, which is the normal mind of fallen man, is enmity against God, not subject to his law, neither indeed can be. To be carnally-minded is death, since they that are in the flesh cannot please God. Hence, from enmity against God, repentance is a change of mind toward God. It is a reversal of, or turning upside down, the carnal mind. Perhaps one may say this makes repentance the equivalent of regeneration. My reply is that our exercise of both repentance and faith is but the underside, whose upper or divine side is called regeneration. This fact explains how repentance is a grace. Hence the saying, "Jesus Christ was exalted a Prince and Saviour to give repentance to Israel," and "God hath granted to the Gentiles repentance unto life."

We are now prepared to show seriatim the folly of the false definitions cited. First, worldly sorrow, or remorse of conscience, cannot be repentance because of its origin and end. It is from the world and worketh death. For example, Judas; for illustration, Byron's "Scorpion Girt with Fire:" So do the dark in soul expire, Or live like scorpion girt with fire; So writhes the mind remorse hath given; Unfit for earth, undoomed for heaven, Darkness above, despair beneath, Around it flame, within it death.

Second, godly sorrow is not repentance, for it worketh repentance, and we may not confound the producer and the product. For example, the Bible says, "Tribulation worketh patience," and one would not say, "Tribulation is patience." So neither should we say, "Godly sorrow is repentance."

Third, Sam Jones' definition, "Quit your meanness," is not to repent, for that is only one half and a negative half at that of Campbell's definition, "Reform." Isaiah gives both halves thus: "Ceasing to do evil and learning to do well." But neither the one nor the other is a definition of repentance, since reformation is the "fruit meet for repentance," so well stated in the following scriptures: "Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance" (Matt. 3:8). ''Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, we have Abraham to our father, for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. And now also the ax is laid unto the root of the tree; every tree, therefore, which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down and cast into the fire. And the people asked him saying, What shall we do then? He answered and said unto them, he that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise. Then came also the publicans to be baptized, and said unto him, Master, what shall we do? And he said unto them, Exact no more than that which is appointed you. And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, and what shall we do? And he said unto them, do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages" (Luke 3:8-14). "So the people of Nineveh believed God and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them. For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth and sat in ashes. And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste anything; let them not feed, nor drink water; but let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God; yea, let them turn every one from his evil way and from the violence that is in their hands" (Jonah 3:5-8). "For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you; yea, what clearing of yourselves; yea, what indignation; yea, what fear; yea, what vehement desire; yea, what zeal; yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter" (2 Cor. 7:11). "Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; learn to do well; seek judgment; relieve the oppressed; judge the fatherless; plead for the widow" (Isa. 1:16-17). "Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men; and they counted the price of them and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver" (Acts 19:19).

Fourth, acknowledging a fault or saying we are sorry is not repentance, though repentance leads naturally to confession of sin, as appears from the fact that John's penitents were baptized "confessing their sins," and from what is said of the Ephesian penitents (Acts 19:18): "And many that believed came and confessed and showed their deeds."

Fifth, Mr. Moody's definition, "Right about face," is not repentance, for that is conversion in literal import. In the divine influence originating it, conversion precedes repentance as thus expressed by Jeremiah 31:19: "After that I was turned I repented." But in our exercise it follows repentance, as expressed by Peter, "Repent and be converted" (Acts 3:19). 

Sixth, "Do penance." The Romanist translation of Matthew 3:2 conveys an idea antipodal to repentance. Repentance is internal. Doing penance is external. Repentance deals directly with God; penance obeys an earthly priest. Penance inflicts punishment on the flesh. Repentance turns the spirit lovingly to God.

Seventh, restitution is not repentance, but only one of its ripest fruits. Zaccheus well illustrates this in his words to Christ: "Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken anything from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold" (Luke 19:8).

Eighth, M. T. Martin's definition, "Knowing God and turning from dead works," is not a definition of repentance, and without a clear explanation is misleading as an equivalent. The idea of this so-called definition is derived from two scriptures, to wit: "Repentance from dead works," (Heb. 6:1) and "This is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent" (John 17:3). In this latter scripture the definer assumes that "knowing God" is repentance, and "knowing Jesus Christ" is faith. The assumption is more plausible than correct. In effect it changes the scriptural order of repentance and faith, for we cannot know the Father except through the Son, which under the definition would make us get to repentance only through faith. Moreover, if knowing the Father and the Son as a means to eternal life must have an equivalent, it would be more exact to make faith the equivalent of both. But, arguing logically, the true equivalent of the "knowing" in this case is eternal life, and as the life is a result, so must knowing, its equivalent, be a result; and as the life results from faith, so must the knowing, its equivalent, so result. The liability to abuse arising from making the phrase "knowing God" a definition of repentance, and the phrase, "knowing Jesus Christ" a definition of faith, lies in the common misconception of the import of the word "know" in variant Bible usage. It is often employed to express the idea of approbation rather than information. There is no eternal life in the knowledge that stops at mere information. The demon said to Jesus, "I know thee, who thou art, thou Holy One of God" (Mark 1:24). And James also says, "The demons also believe and tremble." It is therefore not so much information which men need as a renewed mind. The fact is both notable and significant, that those who most insist on knowing God as a definition of repentance are those who most minify its importance, preach it seldom and virtually make it equivalent to a mere intellectual perception logically resulting from a clear statement of a truth.

Ninth, benevolence is not repentance, though surely an accompaniment or fruit of it. A man once said in my hearing, "I can do more repentance with a barrel of flour and a side of bacon than was ever found at a mourner's bench." If this statement could be construed to mean that true repentance evidences itself more in deeds of charity to the needy than in mere bemoanings of one's self, whether at or aside from a bench, it might claim some merit, but it is not fairly susceptible of such construction; hence is faulty at both ends. The sneer at the mourner and the affirmation that one repents by deeds of charity are alike unscriptural. Yea, they both embody deadly heresies. From the first as a root, two baleful branches shoot out, to wit: One, that we may cultivate the carnal mind into a Christian mind by a process of giving; the other, that we may atone for sin by subsequent benefactions. Both are antipodal to repentance, in that it signifies a supernatural renewal of the mind and leads to faith, which lays hold on substitutionary atonement.

It may be said that there is in the most of these false definitions either such an element of truth, or such nearness to truth, that the heresy is dangerous, because plausible. It is important to account for this looseness in definition. The average mind is not given to analysis, and hence, Judging from phenomena alone, illogically blends or interchanges cause and effect, attributes manifestations to wrong causes, or confounds things externally similar but internally dissimilar. This may be illustrated by any one of the false definitions cited. For example, the external symptoms of remorse, or worldly sorrow, and godly sorrow, may easily be confounded by a superficial judge. Even Dr. Adam Clark evinces great lack of discrimination by finding hope of salvation in the case of Judas, because under the promptings of remorse he threw down the blood money, saying, "I have betrayed the innocent blood." So through the ages, over-sanguine and sympathetic temperaments have been accustomed to deduce most unwarranted inferences from the remorse of the ungodly manifestations in a dying hour, and particularly in the case of criminals about to be executed. Herein consists one of the excellencies of the divine judgment. It is not according to appearances.

Again, because godly sorrow, the mediate agent of repentance, and confession, conversion, reformation and restitution, its unfailing results, all have external visibility; while repentance, itself being internal, is inscrutable, it is quite easy for one who judges by the sight of his eyes, to miscall any one of them repentance. We may get somewhat nearer to the heart of this matter by noting the fact that, if from a given sentence you erase a word and substitute an alleged definition therefor, the definition, if accurate, will not only invariably make good sense, but will also certainly convey the true sense, while a false definition so substituted will not likely make good sense, and will certainly change the original meaning. For illustration, suppose we write on a blackboard this sentence: "The gifts and calling of God are without repentance," then erasing the word "repentance," substitute therefore successively the ten false and the one true definitions heretofore given, and see which one not only makes the best sense, but conveys the original sense. In trying this experiment it must be remembered that in this sentence "without repentance" refers to God, and not to the one who receives, or who is called.

The gifts and calling of God are without worldly sorrow, that is, on his part.

The gifts and calling of God are without godly sorrow, that is, on his part.

The gifts and calling of God are without quitting his meanness.

The gifts and calling of God are without reformation, that is, on his part.

The gifts and calling of God are without conversion, on his part.

The gifts and calling of God are without his doing penance.

The gifts and calling of God are without restitution, that is, on his part.

The gifts and calling of God are without his knowing God and turning from dead works.

The gifts and calling of God are without benefactions.

Here let us substitute the true definition, "The gifts and calling of God are without a change of mind," which means what? That God never takes back what he gives; that he never reconsiders when he calls. That if he gives one eternal life all the devils in hell can never pluck it away; that if he calls one unto eternal life, that calling will insure every other step in the process of salvation. The same thought is expressed in that other scripture, which says of God, "He is without variableness or shadow of turning," or that other scripture which declares him to be "the same yesterday, today and forever." It follows that this scripture teaches the doctrine of the final preservation of the saints, based upon the unchangeableness of the divine purpose.[1]



[1] Excerpted from B. H. Carroll’s 17-volume commentary An Interpretation of the English Bible. See volume 10: "The Four Gospels, Part 1", chapter 13: "The Nature, Necessity, Importance and Definition of Repentance" (pp. 177-195 in "The Four Gospels, Part 1").

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm wondering whether this all brings doubt upon the Free Grace understanding of the parable of the sower. Most in the Free Grace camp believe the last three soils to be saved. But here Carroll draws a connection between the third seed choked by thorns, and the passage in Jeremiah where God tells them not to sow among thorns. If this is indicative of a lack of preparation, or a lack of repentance, and we know that repentance is required for salvation, then how can we say the third soil, the seed choked by thorns, is saved? Was Jesus actually teaching that this soil represents those who have not repented and therefore are not saved? They had belief, but not repentance? Doesn't this suggest that belief, perhaps, isn't enough? He goes on to talk about preachers who exclude repentance as giving the Gospel to raw sinners. They have not considered the weight of their sin. And he says an acknowledgement of sin is not saving. That leads to the question: how sorry does one have to be before their repentance is genuine? We know repentance is a change of mind, but how great does that change of mind need to be? If one is not tormented quite enough over their sin, did they not truly repent? If one simply acknowledges that they are a sinner, perhaps without much emotion, but knows he needs a savior (Jesus alone), but seems to continue in sins without deep, anguishing remorse, was he really saved? Is he not still a raw sinner? When I was saved, I recognized that I was a sinner who could not save himself, but without much sorrow or torment over my sin. I knew Jesus was my only hope, and I trusted in his work on my behalf. But I still struggle with sin, though not very hard sometimes. I don't always feel very broken over my sin. Did I not truly repent? Are those in the Free Grace merely white-washing my situation? Am I not the seed planted among thorns, which according to Jeremiah would seem to suggest one who hasn't really repented?

Anonymous said...

Also, Carroll states that repentance is the result of godly sorrow, and that is always leads to eternal life (citing the passage in Corinthians). He seems to have an emphasis on sorrow when it comes to repentance. Of course, he says that sorrow alone is not repentance, but he does seem to stress that it is an integral part of repentance. So again, I have to wonder whether I sorrowed enough.

Jonathan Perreault said...

Hi Anonymous,

I’m not sure what exactly you mean when you say “the Free Grace understanding of the parable of the sower.” Since apparently you even admit that there are some different interpretations of that parable in the Free Grace camp. Because you follow up by saying: “Most in the Free Grace camp believe the last three soils to be saved.” So you are saying that not all in the Free Grace camp believe this. I would agree. Actually, in my research on the parable of the soils, I was surprised by how many Bible expositors in the Free Grace camp don’t teach that the last three soils are saved! For example, if I remember correctly, J. Vernon McGee doesn’t teach that. And of course he’s in “the Free Grace camp”. He’s spoken out against Lordship Salvation, even calling it heresy! Similarly, I don’t think H. A. Ironside says that the last three soils are saved. I don’t think Warren Wiersbe does either. I would say that both Ironside and Wiersbe are generally “in the Free Grace camp”, not necessarily on every issue, but generally (or “by and large” or “on the whole”) I would say they are. These are just some examples off the top of my head. You can double-check on that, but I think you see my point: there is some disagreement in “the Free Grace camp” concerning whether or not the last three soils represent saved people or not. Actually, one of the only (non-GES) Free Grace expositor’s that I could find who says that the last three types of soils are saved is Dr. Thomas L. Constable. Though I’m sure there are others. Now if you mean “Most in the [GES] Free Grace camp”, then I’d agree with you. But if you mean, “Most in the [traditional] Free Grace camp”, then no, I would not say that. Quite the opposite, I would say. But my point is that (as you even admit) there is some disagreement in “the Free Grace camp” over the interpretation of the parable of the soils, and whether or not the last three types of soils represent saved people or not. So taking one view or the other on that issue doesn’t mean someone is not “in the Free Grace camp”. So whatever view that B. H. Carroll takes on that particular issue really has no bearing on whether he is “in the Free Grace camp” or not, and likewise neither view of the soils “brings doubt upon the Free Grace understanding of the parable of the sower” because there is room “in the Free Grace camp” for both views.

Jonathan Perreault said...

My point in quoting B. H. Carrol on repentance was not to make any particular point about the parable of the soils, but rather to highlight his view of repentance (Gr. metanoia) as being consistent with the traditional Free Grace view of repentance as a change of mind. B. H. Carroll might not see the thorny soil as saved. I would say that’s not an uncommon Free Grace interpretation. I wouldn’t necessarily agree with that interpretation, but it’s still within “the Free Grace camp”, I would say. And just to be clear, let me say that I agree that no one can be saved without repentance. This is the traditional Free Grace view of repentance, that it is required for salvation. And that it is a change of mind. And that this change of mind occurs when a person believes in Christ. I think B. H. Carrol said that it is preparatory and that it comes before faith. I don’t have a problem with explaining it that way. And just because Carroll says that an acknowledgement of sin is not (in and of itself) saving, doesn’t mean that repentance includes sorrow. I agree that a bare acknowledgement of sin is not saving, if that’s all a person has done. If a person has an acknowledgement of sin, but has never trusted in Christ alone for salvation, then of course such a person is not saved! (See Acts 16:31.) So I think it’s non sequitur to say, “And he says an acknowledgement of sin is not saving. That leads to the question: how sorry does one have to be before their repentance is genuine?” My question would be: where did you get the idea of sorrow from and why did you include it in your reasoning here? It doesn’t seem to follow, as I pointed out above. I agree that an acknowledgement of sin is not repentance. An acknowledgement of sin is not in and of itself a change of mind. And in regards to sorrow, I think it’s important to keep in mind that B. H. Carroll said in that statement you alluded to that “saying we are sorry is not repentance”. You seem to be saying sorrow is part of repentance, whereas Carroll’s point was that it’s not. B. H. Carroll was quite clear to say that godly sorrow “worketh repentance”, or produces repentance (see 2 Cor. 7:9-10). I agree! So I’m not sure what the problem is? Related to this, G. Michael Cocoris makes a good point when he says, “sorrow does not have to precede repentance. Paul says the goodness of God can also lead to repentance (Rom. 2:4).” (Cocoris, Evangelism: A Biblical Approach [Chicago: Moody Press, 1984], p. 67.)

And in regards to when Jeremiah says, “sow not among the thorns” (Jer. 4:3), I wouldn’t interpret that to mean that those people can’t be saved. I mean, even in the parable of the soils that Jesus gave in the Gospel accounts, the seed was sown among the thorns! So those are two different contexts, biblically speaking. I would say that in evangelism, we are to sow among the thorns! Jesus even said, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation” (Mk. 16:15). So we are to sow the seed of the Word of God everywhere, and on all different types of soil. And unless we are willing to say that everyone that we evangelize gets saved (which they obviously don’t), I think it’s clearly evident that some of the “soil” that our good seed falls on is in fact thorny soil. However you want to interpret the thorny soil, saved or unsaved, we are still commanded to preach the gospel to all creation. So I wouldn’t necessarily use that passage in Jeremiah the way B. H. Carroll does. I think there is a point to be made there in what he says, namely that we want to prepare people’s hearts for the gospel. And ultimately it is God who prepares people’s hearts for the gospel using various means, as B. H. Carroll noted.

Jonathan Perreault said...

You went on to say that B. H. Carrol “says that sorrow alone is not repentance, but he does seem to stress that it is an integral part of repentance.” I’m not sure where Carrol stresses that sorrow “is an integral part of repentance”? What Carrol said was: “It should be noted also carefully [!] that repentance is declared to be the product of godly sorrow, lupe kata theon; and that it always ends in salvation, eternal life (Acts 11:18; 2 Cor. 7: 7-10).” It seems like you are conflating or confusing godly sorrow with repentance, but Carroll specifically says “that repentance is declared to be the product of godly sorrow”. So rather than one being “part” of the other, Carroll says that one is “the product” of the other. Not “part” of, but “the product of”. That’s a key distinction, I would say. And if we are going to “accurately handle the word of truth” (2 Tim. 2:15), we need to recognize these biblical distinctions.

Anonymous said...

Ok. My confusion about sorrow was that it seemed he was suggesting that repentance is ALWAYS preceded by godly sorry. At least that's how I understood his words. But like you said, it can stem from God's goodness, so it isn't exclusively related to sorrow.

How do you personally interpret the soils in that case? You said you don't necessarily agree with Carroll's take, so how do you figure that soil can be saved in light of the Jeremiah passage? If clearing the thorns means preparing through repentance, then how can they be saved if the meaning of the thorns is that they haven't repented?

B. H. Carroll was a 4 point calvinist, as I understand it (he didn't believe in limited atonement) but apart from that he seemed to be firmly in the calvinist and lordship camps. I like that he admits that repentance is a change of mind, but there are others in the lordship group who agree with that view. I think Grudem does, but it might have been someone else.. They just think that one will still persevere in good works and faith, and if not, they didn't really "change their mind"

Jonathan Perreault said...

Someone might agree that merely “saying we are sorry is not repentance”, but then they might object and argue that “saying” sorry is not repentance but really being sorrowful is repentance. Let me quote B. H. Carroll to dispel that false notion. Carrol says the following, which I agree with wholeheartedly: “godly sorrow is not repentance, for it worketh repentance, and we may not confound the producer and the product. For example, the Bible says, ‘Tribulation worketh patience,’ and one would not say, ‘Tribulation is patience.’ So neither should we say, ‘Godly sorrow is repentance.’” My point is simply to highlight that whether it is in regards to merely “saying we are sorry” or even in regards to “Godly sorrow”, Carroll makes it clear that neither one is part of biblical repentance. And furthermore I agree that merely “saying we are sorry” is not “Godly sorrow”. But my point is that neither one is part of biblical repentance. Yes, Godly sorrow can lead to repentance (see 2 Cor. 7:9-10). But that’s different from saying that sorrow is part of repentance. The Bible says that Godly sorrow “produces a repentance without regret” (2 Cor. 7:10). This is a key distinction, as B. H. Carrol even affirms when he says, “and we may not confound the producer and the product.”

Jonathan Perreault said...

Hi Anonymous,

In regards to how I personally interpret the four soils in the parable of the soils, I wrote a short article about it in regards to Charles Ryrie’s view of repentance and faith. The article is titled, “Charles Ryrie on Repentance and Faith, Part 3”. The link to the article is here: https://freegracefreespeech.blogspot.com/2023/07/ryrie-on-repentance-and-faith-pt-3.html

You are right, I don’t necessarily agree with Carroll’s take. Don’t get me wrong, the man was a brilliant theologian. But I wouldn’t be so quick to lump that passage in Jeremiah into the same context as Jesus’ parable of the soils that He gives in the Gospel accounts. There are, no doubt, some general similarities; that’s where I’d agree with Carroll on it. But I wouldn’t use Jeremiah 4:3 to interpret Jesus’ parable in the Gospel accounts (or vise versa), because like I said previously, then that would mean that in evangelism we shouldn’t preach the gospel to certain people! Anyone who has a hard heart or “thorny” heart -- we should not preach the Gospel to them? (That seems very Calvinistic, and even Calvinists don’t go that far!) I’m not comfortable with that interpretation. Especially when Jesus says in the Gospel of Mark to “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation” (Mk. 16:15). So like I said previously, I think there are some general principles from Jeremiah 4:3 that we can transfer over to the parable of the soils, such as recognizing that God prepares people’s hearts for the gospel, and in evangelism we should recognize this and preach in such a way that the Spirit of God uses the Word of God to convict the world of sin, of righteousness, and of judgement; of sin because the unsaved don’t believe in Jesus (see John 16:8-11).

You also asked, “If clearing the thorns means preparing through repentance, then how can they be saved if the meaning of the thorns is that they haven’t repented?” Again, I think we have to be careful to not read things into the text (eisogesis), and also we have to be careful to not build a doctrine on a parable. Just because there are thorns doesn’t necessarily mean they haven’t repented. Maybe they have repented, but there is still some unrepentance in regards to certain things. I’m just saying that as a possibility, I don’t want to be dogmatic on that. That’s not my point. My point is that I wouldn’t necessarily agree with the premise of your question. I think it is more eisogesis than exegesis. We have to be careful not to read our own theological viewpoints into the biblical text. I think your question assumes a lot, especially in regards to linking Jeremiah 4:3 with the parable of the soils. We have to be careful linking random Scriptures together, even if they seem to be related, or if we see some connection with another Bible verse or passage of Scripture. I’m sure you’ve probably heard the story about the man whose method of Bible interpretation was cherry-picking certain Bible verses out of context. See the article titled, “Cherry picking the Bible is an error”. In which the following example is given: “The letter by Rick Nelson (LSJ, Feb. 27) is a great example of the harm you can do when you cherry-pick the Bible. Here’s my example. ‘And he (Judas)...went and hanged himself.’ ‘Go, and do thou likewise.’ ‘What thou doest, do speedily.’ (The texts are Matthew 27:5, Luke 10:37 and John 13:27.) When the nervous laughter died down in my undergraduate New Testament course at Northwestern, Professor (and Methodist minister) Paul Schilpp said quietly, ‘Never quote text out of context.’” This is just an example, but I think it makes a good point and one that we would do well to remember.

Anonymous said...

That's very helpful and interesting. What indication is there that the 3rd soil believed though? Unlike the 2nd soil, it never says they believed. Some translations don't even say it grew, but that the seed itself was choked, and so of course it would not produce. It does say they heard, and in a biblical sense, hearing can mean believing, but then the first soil also heard, but did not believe

Anonymous said...

I'm surprised so many free grace people think the 2nd soil is not saved, then. If so, that means there is such a thing as a spurious or temporary faith. I was under the impression that many free grace people did not believe in spurious faith, but maybe I'm mistaken again. If there is such a thing, then that lends support to the lordship side. And then a lot of verses, such as the people in John who "believed" but Jesus did not entrust himself to them, come into doubt.

Jonathan Perreault said...

Hi Anonymous,

In regards to your question, “What indication is there that the 3rd soil believed though? Unlike the 2nd soil, it never says they believed.” I would say that if you are going to say that “believed” means saving faith (which I agree that it does in light of what Jesus says in Luke 8:12), then to be consistent you’d have to say that soil #2 (the rocky soil in Luke 8:13) is saved, because Jesus says that they did believe (see Lk. 8:13). So even using your reasoning, it essentially disproves Lordship Salvation because it shows that even temporary faith is saving faith. And although the exact word “believe” isn’t directly used in regards to soil #3, it’s implied in that there initially was “fruit” (Lk. 8:14; cf. Mk. 4:19) — granted, it didn’t grow to maturity, but initially there was at least some “fruit”! So unless you are willing to say that unbelievers (i.e. the unsaved) can have spiritual fruit, this is a strong indication that soil #3 is indeed saved, i.e. it represents a certain type of saved person (such as a carnal believer, for example).

Jonathan Perreault said...

And in regards to soil #3, when Jesus says that the seed which fell among the thorns brought “no fruit to maturity” (Lk. 8:14, NASB), a helpful cross-reference is Revelation 3:2, when Jesus says to the church in Sardis: “Wake up, and strengthen the things that remain, which were about to die; for I have not found your deeds completed in the sight of My God.” So it’s the same idea: there is no fruit to maturity in either case. These people are saved, but unfruitful. For more information see my article titled “Christ’s Message to the Church in Sardis”.

The link is: https://freegracefreespeech.blogspot.com/2020/08/christs-message-to-church-in-sardis-rev.html

Jonathan Perreault said...

And in regards to when you said, “I’m surprised so many free grace people think the 2nd soil is not saved, then.” I would agree. I’d say that Free Grace (FG) theology wasn’t always so “refined” (I use that word recognizing both the positive and negative connotations of the word) or systematized as it is today. Over the years FG theology has become much more systematized and focused, mainly through the writings of Lewis Sperry Chafer and his Systematic Theology, and Charles Ryrie and his study Bible, and then more recently through the publications of the Grace Evangelical Society (the GES) and it’s theological journal (JOTGES). I think that Zane Hodges and the GES really helped to develop FG theology into what it is today. I say that acknowledging the unfortunate reality of how Hodges and the GES changed their position on the meaning of repentance and also their departure from the true gospel. But the flip side is that they also helped to systematize Free Grace theology, and if we are going to be fair and honest I think we need to recognize that for all the harm they have done to the movement by changing their views on some things and introducing strange new teachings, they have also contributed many positive things to the FG movement. I have personally been blessed by many of the teachings and insights of Zane Hodges, Bob Wilkin, and the GES. For example, Hodges’ commentary on The Epistle of James is probably the best, or at least one of the best, FG commentaries on James that is in print, in my opinion. We used Hodges’ commentary on James when I was a student in Bible School. It was required reading for my class on James. And Hodges’ influence and his FG interpretation of James is also reflected in The Moody Bible Commentary’s commentary on James, which was written by Professor John F. Hart, a Free Grace author and a member of GES. (I cite this as just one example of a positive influence that Hodges has had on the FG movement in general.) So I think that FG theology has come much more into focus through the years, and in the early stages of development it was not so clearly focused in regards to how it was different from Lordship Salvation (LS). I think that Charles Ryrie contributed a lot toward that end (distinguishing FG theology from LS) and also Zane Hodges and the Grace Evangelical Society have really helped a lot in that regard. In many ways FG theology is a response to the unbiblical extremes of Lordship Salvation, which has likewise become much more developed over the years (mainly through the writings of John MacArthur), so that has required FG theology to become more focused and outspoken in response to it. Unfortunately Zane Hodges and the GES have changed their views on repentance and also on the gospel, but I think to be fair and honest we also need to recognize many of the positive things that they have contributed to the FG movement at large.

Jonathan Perreault said...

But getting back the Parable of the Soils, let me just preempt another objection that might come up. George Zeller uses this objection, and he’s NOT a Free Grace advocate by the way. I would say that Zeller agrees with some of the teachings of FG theology, but he actually promotes what’s been called “back door” Lordship Salvation. Zeller says that a real Christian will bear fruit consisting of good works in their life, and if they don’t it just proves they are unsaved (according to Zeller). And in regards to the Parable of the soils, what Zeller says is: “IF GOOD WORKS ARE NOT A NECESSARY OUTCOME OF SAVING FAITH, THEN...Jesus’ parable of the sower ought to be revised so that it would read as follows: ‘But other fell into good ground and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold and some zerofold’ (Matt. 13:8). As the parable stands it teaches that all believers are fruitful but not all believers are as fruitful as they should be or could be. Actually, Hodges and Dillow and Wilkin teach that many believers bear ZERO fruit as represented by the stony and thorny soils.”

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Jonathan Perreault said...

But Zeller’s argument is a perfect example of eisogesis, or reading his preconceived theological bias into the text, not getting the meaning out of the text (exegesis). Because Zeller is merely assuming or taking it for granted that the 2nd and 3rd soils are unsaved, not proving it. So Zeller is merely “begging the question”, which is a logical fallacy. Obviously the 4th soil (the good soil) is saved, who disagrees with that? And Jesus specifically says that it “indeed bears fruit”, so of course it will not “bear ZERO fruit”! That doesn’t prove the other soils are unsaved, it only proves that the good soil bears fruit. But again, who disagrees with that? Zeller has a theological presupposition that all believers will bear fruit in their life in the form of good works, so in his view the 2nd and 3rd soils cannot be saved because they don’t fit into his mold. But that’s not what Jesus says. If we look at the text carefully, it can be shown that the 2nd and 3rd soils are indeed saved, as I pointed out above. (And they do indeed bear spiritual fruit, "somewhere, sometime, somehow." But not necessarily in the way that Zeller requires.) Commenting on the parallel passage in Luke 8:13-14, Dr. Thomas L. Constable affirms that, “In both cases, in rocky soil and among thorns, there was some initial faith in Jesus, and later a turning away from Him in unbelief. Jesus said that they believed: they were saved. Jesus did not say they lost their salvation. That is impossible (cf. John 10:28; Rom. 8:31-39). He said they turned away in unbelief, that is, they believed for a while and then stopped believing. ‘Believers are held by the promise of God, not by their own faithfulness or by the endurance of their faith. ... Eternal salvation occurs the moment that a person believes the promise of the gospel. Thus it cannot and does not depend on continuing to believe the gospel.’ [Robert N. Wilkin, Confident in Christ, p. 28.] In Jesus’ day, some people genuinely believed on Him and then had doubts (e.g., John the Baptist). Jesus used the phrase ‘fall away’ (Gr. skandalizomai) of ‘anyone’ in 7:23: Anyone is capable of doing this. Luke used a different Greek word here (8:13, aphisteme), but only because he preferred it, not because it has a different meaning. Today, true believers sometimes stop believing what they previously believed because of information they receive that convinces them their former faith was wrong (e.g., youths who abandon their faith in college; cf. 2 Cor. 11:3). Luke’s treatment of this passage shows his concern about apostasy (i.e., departure from the truth) under persecution. Those of us who have grown up in ‘Christian’ countries sometimes fail to appreciate the fact that genuine Christians have renounced their faith in Jesus under severe persecution (e.g., Peter, though his failure was short-lived). We may tend to think that people who do this were never genuine believers. That may be true in some cases. However, we need to remember that for every Christian martyr who died refusing to renounce his faith — there were other believers who escaped death by renouncing it. To say that their behavior showed that they never truly believed is naive and unbiblical (cf. 19:11-27; 2 Tim. 2:12-13; 4:10a).”